2010-07-07, 06:50 AM
(2010-07-06, 01:43 PM)dmpdesign link Wrote: I am pretty certain you are in the minority on this one Holy. Most people like the uniqueness of the custom parts and the additional graphics that Joe/Ben and several others have made. And Ben is totally right, can we get some words of encouragement once in a while instead of continual dogging on what others are trying to do?
I for one can't wait to see either of their games because I know full well they will blow mine away, and I am thankful for that. If there was anything that I couldnt stand the most about SOM was that I didn't have the time/skill to go full custom with the engine. I think if you only use whats given in the toolset then you might as well not bother because as soon as someone begins to play they will just think its another DOM clone and turn it off.
We all have our opinions, and its ok to share them, but honestly Holy, I think at this point youre shoving yours down everyone's throat. You have probably posted a dozen times about how you don't like the direction of Joe/Ben's game graphics, and its quite obvious they are set in their ways, so if you don't have any positive things to post please quit posting.
FYI, some people would actually like to finish their game some time this century, so waiting for your miracle of porting in the ST enemies etc may just be out of the question.
To Ben, keep on making your customs, the REST[i][b][/i][/b] of us think it looks great so far.
First, that's an irresponsible mischaracterization. But just remember if your goal is to do everything from scratch you're going to be dependent on people like me to reverse engineer Som and build tools for you. Which is why Som is a really odd fit for that sort of task... not to mention it's designed to do one type of gameplay and one only. It's just a weird way to go and I don't think that approach technically yields better games at all. If you really want to see good games it require a willful joining of forces. DIY can't compete with corporations unless their work yields more than the sum of its parts. I'm just tired of seeing shit games churned out by corporate boards or piddly squat squeezed out by indie operations and I don't think one man games from scratch is a more viable model.
Their games are fine. But so is DoM, which by the way is not the end all of of Som, only because "people who've played it won't play another Som game". A) People are not that shallow, and B) they're Som graphics, not DoM graphics, which should be as beloved to fans as any KF game's. I also BTW love seeing the graphics re-used the same way I love seeing people in communities sharing / not being wasteful of resources. No one would complain if the same horse had a part in two movies... or actor for that matter. If "people" only want to be done with their games and not look back, I'm not really interested in those people. Som is 10yrs old and is just beginning to pick up steam. Software development doesn't happen overnight... elves are not part of the process.
I'm just A) conversing, and B) encouraging people to do more than help themselves. So, chill out, and enough with the slander already
