KF1SOM Final Boss

#1
Sadani Is there some sort of bug/glitch that means this tree boi won't die?
I spent up to 10 minuts as a lvl 21 swordmaster, spamming Moonlight spells at it, to no avail..
I thought the bed of chaos was bad enough

Am I missing something here? Never had a problem in the original.
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#2
I've never heard of this. Make sure their damage animation is playing. They should go down eventually. I've never played it myself, but I've been around SOM for nearly a decade. The ending movie is in the MOVIE folder. The remake is kind of crappy. The faces in the boss lair I believe may not be able to fire for exploding on the wall, and if they can they fire over your head!
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#3
Yup, they fly right over your head.

Yeah his damage animation happens! Just to elaborate a bit more - my first attempt was spamming moonlight sword's magic at it, with a low level character because I was experimenting with speed running the game.
That was 20 minutes solid of firing that spell before retreating to just touching back left stone mask, a safe spot, before popping out to fire again. I had a podcast on to stop me going insane.

This is no exaggeration. low level char fought for 20 minutes, high level for at least 10.
Something has to be wrong, unfortunately i can find no other mention of it, and no full playthrough videos anywhere! ‎ 
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#4
I think I may have fought the boss one time, but with fake debugging stats, since I didn't play through the game. I kind of remember it taking a while. With sword-magic your Magic stat probably has a larger role. I think it's probably the only way to hit them. Since the masks shoot over your head, it's apparent From's staff didn't play-test it! So it's totally possible that the "balance" is way off. Although 10 minutes is not long for a final encounter. If you are using the version DMPDesign here prepared/translated, I was curious if they made an effort to fix the masks, but it sounds like not.
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#5
I would say 10 minutes is extremely long. Especially if you consider no boss in any KF game, with a normally leveled character will take anywhere near as long.

Especially not the final boss of original KF!

sigh.. i'll look at some maps/ pick up any remaining verdite, and try again.
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#6
Well, I'm not going to quibble, but I can easily imagine fighting Guyra or Seath taking 10 minutes or considerably longer. If you are under-leveled you shouldn't be surprised if you spend an hour chipping away at a baddy.
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#7
I checked the enemy stats, shouldnt be an issue, I verified him killable on a save I had. ‎  I presume you are playing a version found via this site and not another?
- Todd DuFore (DMPDesign)
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#8
Oookay then. Thought I'd grab a video to prove my point/ ask what I'm doing wrong..and it finally fell after 15 minutes continuous moonlight magic spamming while ducking behind a face pillar ‎  Smash2

As swordmaster level 22 with 84 magic stat. This was after a regular playthrough, not my speedrun experimentation file.

For reference my ps1 char can beat the final boss inside of a few minutes with the same magic stat, but level 26.

Ah well, I guess the speedrun dream will have to die for now. I don't wanna go through that or worse again!
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#9
(2019-04-05, 10:03 PM)Blinge link Wrote: Oookay then. Thought I'd grab a video to prove my point/ ask what I'm doing wrong..and it finally fell after 15 minutes continuous moonlight magic spamming while ducking behind a face pillar ‎  :smash2

Such dedication Eek Did you mean to include a video link?

If you're interested in play testing SOM stuff, I've a KF2 port project underway that will need testers, and a lot of VR stuff too if you any VR. Anyone who makes videos can be a big help to raise awareness.
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#10
Haha no, as the boss fell I felt I didn't need a video any more.

Besides I struggled to record SoM at all - OBS game capture or my other weird program "d3d gear" won't detect the program.
OBS desktop capture just went glitchy as all hell, you can tell what's going on but it's in no way fit for youtube.
Shame really, I wanted to check out some of the better known SoM games on my channel for a total of 10 views ‎  Biggrin

Thanks for the advice btw guys!
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