2009-05-07, 10:25 AM
I think most of the plot incongruity comes from 'semi-official' made up add on stories that appeared in the strategy guides. I don't think Agetec cared what they put in the guides and they contradict the KF games and even sometimes even contradict themselves.
If you ignore the guide stories, the games themselves make pretty good sense and have congruity. All three KF games say that the Moonlight Sword was made by Guyra and given to the Forester family in ancient times. It was passed down to Hauser and finally John got it off his father's grave in KFJ. That's why Guyra repaired it and empowered it.
The 'Forest Dragon' is just what Guyra is called in an ancient legend where he reportedly saved Verdite. It is inferred that the member of the Forester family who was given the Moonlight Sword in ancient times might have been the actual hero who saved Verdite 'in Guyra's name'. By the beginning of KFJ, Guyra is not physically 'embodied', and in later KFs the Forest Dragon is called 'Guyra's projection who guards the place where he hopes to be reborn'. Myria and the other fairies are Guyra's creation and servants.
I don't think Guyra or Seath are inherently evil, they are just opposing forces.
Of interest, the word I translated as 'holy' is literally 'saint' in Japanese which is usually translated as holy in games. It's a different word than 'light' which Japanese seem to equate with power/force rather than holiness.
To clear up some plot confusion for KFJap.
There were three kings in the game.
Randalf VIII-
He's the guy who teaches you fire magic. He was poisoned to death by his brother (Reinhartd II) and buried on the 3rd floor of the cemetery. His brother's son (Reinhardt III) then attempted to resurrect Randalf as an undead servant, but the resurrected Ransdalf's magic was too strong to control so the nephew sealed him in place.
Reinhardt II-
Killed his brother Randalf to become king. The Black Knight and Magician were his bodyguards. Was turned to stone by his son.
Reinhardt III- Son of Reinhardt II, he's the current king at the time of the story. A talented earth magician who was able to raise the dead. He's the boss you fight at the end of the game.
John Alfred was only distantly related to the kings through his mother who was a member of the royal family. John Alfred's father, Hauser, was captain of Reinhardt III's bodyguard.
As a side note, I've collected several notes on how to improve the KFJ translation and plan to update the patch someday; if anyone has any ideas on how to improve the translation or clear up confusions, let me know! :)
If you ignore the guide stories, the games themselves make pretty good sense and have congruity. All three KF games say that the Moonlight Sword was made by Guyra and given to the Forester family in ancient times. It was passed down to Hauser and finally John got it off his father's grave in KFJ. That's why Guyra repaired it and empowered it.
The 'Forest Dragon' is just what Guyra is called in an ancient legend where he reportedly saved Verdite. It is inferred that the member of the Forester family who was given the Moonlight Sword in ancient times might have been the actual hero who saved Verdite 'in Guyra's name'. By the beginning of KFJ, Guyra is not physically 'embodied', and in later KFs the Forest Dragon is called 'Guyra's projection who guards the place where he hopes to be reborn'. Myria and the other fairies are Guyra's creation and servants.
I don't think Guyra or Seath are inherently evil, they are just opposing forces.
Of interest, the word I translated as 'holy' is literally 'saint' in Japanese which is usually translated as holy in games. It's a different word than 'light' which Japanese seem to equate with power/force rather than holiness.
To clear up some plot confusion for KFJap.
There were three kings in the game.
Randalf VIII-
He's the guy who teaches you fire magic. He was poisoned to death by his brother (Reinhartd II) and buried on the 3rd floor of the cemetery. His brother's son (Reinhardt III) then attempted to resurrect Randalf as an undead servant, but the resurrected Ransdalf's magic was too strong to control so the nephew sealed him in place.
Reinhardt II-
Killed his brother Randalf to become king. The Black Knight and Magician were his bodyguards. Was turned to stone by his son.
Reinhardt III- Son of Reinhardt II, he's the current king at the time of the story. A talented earth magician who was able to raise the dead. He's the boss you fight at the end of the game.
John Alfred was only distantly related to the kings through his mother who was a member of the royal family. John Alfred's father, Hauser, was captain of Reinhardt III's bodyguard.
As a side note, I've collected several notes on how to improve the KFJ translation and plan to update the patch someday; if anyone has any ideas on how to improve the translation or clear up confusions, let me know! :)