2013-04-03, 11:44 PM
Here is a more solid argument why Guyra is associated with the Dark Slayer, and Seath the Moonlight Sword. To me this represents the taijitu and the only reason Guyra can be so logical is because his magical qualities exist in the Dark Slayer and vice versa.
But a better and more obvious way of looking at it, is the swords are the dragons prisons. So the Dark Slayer is Guyra's prison, and the Moonlight is Seath's. So when the dragons are exorcised from the swords Seath springs from the Moonlight and Guyra from the Dark Slayer (fyi: this prison angle is the original idea buried in this post)
They are kind of like the hearts of the dragons too. They kind of have a deal to keep the swords away from each other so they can be immortal. But also the way to undo the dragons is always guaranteed to be part of the universe. If one dragon is slayed, the taijitu (harmony) is disrupted, so catastrophe follows, like in KF3.
This also explains why Guyra would opt to seal Seath up rather than dispose of him; edited: in VI. Both dragons I think want more than anything to be the only dragon, but they have to accept that their fates are intertwined.
PS: To my mind the swords have poetic meaning. Dark Slayer means enlightenment, to slay the dark, so Guyra is all obsessed with logic, so his thing is to bring about an age of reason. And Seath's thing is magic. He wants to bring magic back into the world, and bring to an age of whimsy or whatever, where nothing is certain or knowable. So in our beloved Moonlight sword there is a kind of aura of magic, but also, I see Guyra as being interested in truth, and Seath being interested in lies. Or virtual reality. So the Moonlight has a kind of falseness to it, like the light reflecting off the moon. It looks like the moon is a light source, but it really isn't. I like to associate these two demi-gods with Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, which I consider the archetypes of Lucifer and Satan (the original angels that spawned all angels) for literary significance. So I consider Seath and the Moonlight to be satanic (edited: obviously not in a knee jerk bogey man sense) in that they create virtual realities that compete with reality. I do think the Moonlight is based on Stormbringer too. Which is literally Satan. I think this wider perspective anyway gives the Sword of Moonlight a much larger literary cachet. And ties it into the real world. Which authors could use to make very interesting games that go way beyond the likes of standard King's Field fair.
PPS: So together the dragons and swords are like the eyes of Horus. The Moonlight is the moon, light and shadow, or how we describe film, and art, photography. And the Dark Slayer is truth, the sun, not only is it the bolt of lightning slaying the night sky, it is the sun literally extinguishing the night. And the moon reflects the light of the sun. Just as art, fiction, reflects truth. Mind you King's Field is just a game, and to my mind any KF game is set in a VR setting, so we can have this understanding, and also recognize that it is an understanding simply built into the game by its equally fictional creators, just as Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, is a fiction be she Dorothy of Oz or Dorothy of Kansas.
EDITED: I also guess that would make Dark Slayer Mournblade. And just to be clear I have little doubt in my mind that King's Field's designer(s) had these swords in mind when planning their trilogy. Planning these trilogies out. Neither can I fathom the trilogy being improvised completely game by game. It seems like they'd all have to be planned out in advance. It's just too tempting to go into games two and three when planning a single game.
But a better and more obvious way of looking at it, is the swords are the dragons prisons. So the Dark Slayer is Guyra's prison, and the Moonlight is Seath's. So when the dragons are exorcised from the swords Seath springs from the Moonlight and Guyra from the Dark Slayer (fyi: this prison angle is the original idea buried in this post)
They are kind of like the hearts of the dragons too. They kind of have a deal to keep the swords away from each other so they can be immortal. But also the way to undo the dragons is always guaranteed to be part of the universe. If one dragon is slayed, the taijitu (harmony) is disrupted, so catastrophe follows, like in KF3.
This also explains why Guyra would opt to seal Seath up rather than dispose of him; edited: in VI. Both dragons I think want more than anything to be the only dragon, but they have to accept that their fates are intertwined.
PS: To my mind the swords have poetic meaning. Dark Slayer means enlightenment, to slay the dark, so Guyra is all obsessed with logic, so his thing is to bring about an age of reason. And Seath's thing is magic. He wants to bring magic back into the world, and bring to an age of whimsy or whatever, where nothing is certain or knowable. So in our beloved Moonlight sword there is a kind of aura of magic, but also, I see Guyra as being interested in truth, and Seath being interested in lies. Or virtual reality. So the Moonlight has a kind of falseness to it, like the light reflecting off the moon. It looks like the moon is a light source, but it really isn't. I like to associate these two demi-gods with Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, which I consider the archetypes of Lucifer and Satan (the original angels that spawned all angels) for literary significance. So I consider Seath and the Moonlight to be satanic (edited: obviously not in a knee jerk bogey man sense) in that they create virtual realities that compete with reality. I do think the Moonlight is based on Stormbringer too. Which is literally Satan. I think this wider perspective anyway gives the Sword of Moonlight a much larger literary cachet. And ties it into the real world. Which authors could use to make very interesting games that go way beyond the likes of standard King's Field fair.
PPS: So together the dragons and swords are like the eyes of Horus. The Moonlight is the moon, light and shadow, or how we describe film, and art, photography. And the Dark Slayer is truth, the sun, not only is it the bolt of lightning slaying the night sky, it is the sun literally extinguishing the night. And the moon reflects the light of the sun. Just as art, fiction, reflects truth. Mind you King's Field is just a game, and to my mind any KF game is set in a VR setting, so we can have this understanding, and also recognize that it is an understanding simply built into the game by its equally fictional creators, just as Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, is a fiction be she Dorothy of Oz or Dorothy of Kansas.
EDITED: I also guess that would make Dark Slayer Mournblade. And just to be clear I have little doubt in my mind that King's Field's designer(s) had these swords in mind when planning their trilogy. Planning these trilogies out. Neither can I fathom the trilogy being improvised completely game by game. It seems like they'd all have to be planned out in advance. It's just too tempting to go into games two and three when planning a single game.