Long term KF project

[Holy_Diver]

I have heard from reliable sources that the KF2 and 3 stories did not originate at Fromsoft. The Japanese made a rather heavy handed attempt to adapt the stories in order to plug them into KF1, but From didn't really didn't care about story as they are a studio of programmers more than artists.

I'm just a programmer too. That doesn't mean I can't craft a half decent story. Most anyone can make a better story than your standard video game fair. That said unless the story was first published as a light novel series or something, this seems unlikely to me. Unless there was a never released book series, because it was considered unfit for print.

Also From Software's games are always cryptic and noncommittal (at least up to here recently) this way when it comes to story. I am not so quick to dismiss them as you are.

You seem to be looking for a finely crafted contiguous plot line between the trilogy, but it simply doesn't exist.

I don't know if exists or not. If it doesn't then we'll have to make one. Assuming other people wanting to make KF games with SOM would like to have a coherent universe to play in. If not everyone can just make games without any respect for any other games, but part of me thinks that is not treating players fairly, and another part of me is certain that coherent games will be much better received by the public, and that will cast SOM in a better light.

Most of the story in the KF trilogy is told through histories and hearsay if not down right treachery. That part doesn't need and probably should not be coherent. But the underlying events should make an attempt to be coherent, or otherwise games should not pretend to do any more than borrow the KF esthetic the way Final Fantasy games have an overarching esthetic. That said at the very least if you make games with a direct continuity, like KF1~3 you owe it to the player to get things to agree. Especially since we hope that you continue to maintain your games after the initial release. You might like that games are like little jewels, but I prefer that authors have a sense of responsibility, and continue to improve and maintain the games so that future generations can enjoy even better games. Bottom line to me is its a shame to throw out a good idea just because the first run came out a little bit off. I expect this will be second nature for amateur game makers, because the first run is always going to be weak sauce.

EDITED: An I think its one advantage we have over the traditional publishing model, as long as traditional publishing remains a viable business model. So we may as well take advantage of it.

The KF plots really just throw together enough loosely related points to justify gameplay scenarios, and leave the rest to be filled in by the player. They even changed the story in the KF1 remake that came with SoM and tried to make it work better with the plot of the later KFs.

I wouldn't be surprised if the people working on it just couldn't remember or didn't do the best job. Companies have a way of shedding their historical memory. But that's beside the point. I am all for evolution. Even if its random mutation (aka. evolution)

In KF1 the premise was The Forest Dragon was a benevolent creature who stepped in to save mankind when needed. The Moonlight Sword was his creation given to his chosen warriors who fought for mankind. Myria was his servant.

In KF2 Jap, they changed it to: the Forest Dragon was a spiritual shadow of Guyra. Guyra actually lived in another dimension and was unable to break into the human world.

By spiritual do you mean the good half of Guyra? Otherwise your synopsis is close enough to my understanding. But my understanding is largely just based on things that I've heard over the years. Everything just blends together more or less. I hope after the trilogy is methodically converted over to SOM format that process will lay bear all of its minutia so that we can look at it more like biblical scholars with cold hard evidence to cite.

That said it can only inform any attempt to refactor everything. My hope is plain and simple to craft a compelling cycle of three trilogies that will get the public really excited like Harry Potter or something. I'd change things radically if it seemed like it would help.

That said we at least owe it to From to name drop some stuff here and there. My view of it is KF looks like its dead. We have a KF Making Tool. So lets make some KF. And lets make it a game changing event.


EDITED: Also, thanks for the synopsis.